मेरे और फिल्मों के मामले में—और यह कुछ-कुछ मातृत्व और बच्चों की परवरिश जैसा ही है—मुझे हमेशा ऐसा लगता है कि आप और भी बहुत कुछ कर सकती हैं, और मुझे नहीं पता कि यह कोई सिर्फ़ औरतों की ही खूबी है या नहीं। मुझे नहीं पता कि पिताओं को कैसा महसूस होता है, पर इसमें हार न मानने की जिद्द, हर मुमकिन कोशिश करना, एक पल भी ज़ाया न जाने देना और उस दिशा में लगातार आगे बढ़ते हुए चीज़ों को बेहतर बनाने की कोशिश करना जैसी भावनाएँ पूरी तरह शामिल होती हैं।
For me and movies - and it is kind of similar to motherhood and raising your children - I always feel like there's more you can do, and I don't know if that's particularly a female quality. I don't know how dads feel, but there's definitely a never say die, no stone unturned, never give up a minute that you could be pushing it down the road and try to make it better.
For me and movies - and it is kind of similar to motherhood and raising your children - I always feel like there's more you can do, and I don't know if that's particularly a female quality. I don't know how dads feel, but there's definitely a never say die, no stone unturned, never give up a minute that you could be pushing it down the road and try to make it better.
मुझे असल में नहीं लगता कि हॉलीवुड में वह 'अहंकार की परख' या "मैं इससे बेहतर कर सकती हूँ" वाली मानसिकता ज़्यादा काम आती है, क्योंकि हॉलीवुड में प्रतिभा के दम पर तरक्की मिलने की कोई गारंटी नहीं है। आप किसी भी करियर को उठाकर देख लें तो समझ आ जाएगा कि अगर सफलता सिर्फ़ आपकी फिल्मों के रचनात्मक या व्यावसायिक रूप से सफल होने पर निर्भर करती, तो ये चीज़ें बेमानी नहीं लगतीं। कई लोग बिना इस मानसिकता के भी आगे निकल जाते हैं, और कई लोग ऐसे भी हैं जो इसे होने के बावजूद आगे नहीं बढ़ पाते।
I don't think actually that kind of ego check or "I could do better" mentality probably serves better in Hollywood, because it's definitely not a meritocracy. You can look at any number of careers and sort of see that they don't really make sense if it was only based on your movies working either creatively or financially. There are people that move ahead without that, and there are people that don't move ahead even if they did have that.
I don't think actually that kind of ego check or "I could do better" mentality probably serves better in Hollywood, because it's definitely not a meritocracy. You can look at any number of careers and sort of see that they don't really make sense if it was only based on your movies working either creatively or financially. There are people that move ahead without that, and there are people that don't move ahead even if they did have that.
इस इंडस्ट्री में बहुत बड़े बदलाव आए हैं। जब मैंने फिल्में बनाना शुरू किया था, तब स्टूडियोज़ के मालिक बड़े-बड़े कॉर्पोरेट घराने नहीं हुआ करती थीं, इसलिए फैसले बहुत अलग तरीके से लिए जाते थे। इन सालों में मैंने डीवीडी के ज़माने को उभरते, फिर बर्बाद होते और अंततः खत्म होते हुए देखा है, जो कभी इस तरह का कंटेंट बनाकर कमाई करने का एक बड़ा ज़रिया हुआ करता था। हमने अंतरराष्ट्रीय बाज़ार के मुनाफे के समीकरण बदलते हुए देखे हैं; अब कुल कमाई में विदेशी बाज़ार का हिस्सा घरेलू बाज़ार से कहीं ज़्यादा बड़ा हो गया है, जबकि पहले फिल्में मुख्य रूप से घरेलू कमाई पर ही ज़्यादा निर्भर हुआ करती थीं।
The industry has changed in big ways. When I started making movies, the studios were not all owned by huge conglomerates, so the decisions were made in a very different way. Over the years, I've watched both the rise and the decimation and fall of the DVD as a portion of where you could generate revenue from making this kind of content. We've seen this change in the balance sheet on the international side of the ledger; it's now a much bigger percentage than it is on domestic, even though movies would have been previously really domestically driven.
The industry has changed in big ways. When I started making movies, the studios were not all owned by huge conglomerates, so the decisions were made in a very different way. Over the years, I've watched both the rise and the decimation and fall of the DVD as a portion of where you could generate revenue from making this kind of content. We've seen this change in the balance sheet on the international side of the ledger; it's now a much bigger percentage than it is on domestic, even though movies would have been previously really domestically driven.
क्रिस नोलन को निर्देशन करते देखना महज़ एक अद्भुत अनुभव था। वह इंसानों के रूप में बेहद प्यारे लोगों में से एक हैं, जो कि जैसा कि आप जानते हैं, हमेशा महान निर्देशकों के साथ देखने को नहीं मिलता। लेकिन क्रिस्टोफर नोलन के मामले में यह बात सौ फीसदी सच है, और मुझे लगता है हॉलीवुड में उनके जैसे गिने-चुने लोग ही हैं।
Just watching Chris Nolan direct was amazing. He is one of the most lovely people, which as you know doesn't always go hand-in-hand with great directors. But with Christopher Nolan, and there's only a few I think like him in Hollywood, that's absolutely true.
Just watching Chris Nolan direct was amazing. He is one of the most lovely people, which as you know doesn't always go hand-in-hand with great directors. But with Christopher Nolan, and there's only a few I think like him in Hollywood, that's absolutely true.
मुझे लगता है इस बात को कम करके आंका जाता है कि जब आप कुछ अच्छा करने की कोशिश कर रहे हों, तो यह कितना ज़रूरी है कि हर कोई निर्देशक के विज़न को समझे, उस पर यकीन करे, और उसमें अपना सहयोग देने का अपना रास्ता खुद ढूँढ सके—और इसी तरह आख़िरकार एक बेहतरीन फिल्म बनती है।
That can be undersold, I think, the importance when you're trying to do something good is that everybody understands the director's vision, everybody believes in it, and everybody can find their own path to supporting it, and that's how you end with a great movie.
That can be undersold, I think, the importance when you're trying to do something good is that everybody understands the director's vision, everybody believes in it, and everybody can find their own path to supporting it, and that's how you end with a great movie.
एक निर्माता के रूप में सबसे पहला काम आप यह करते हैं कि निर्देशक के विज़न को जितनी गहराई से हो सके, समझने की कोशिश करते हैं। कई बार आपको ऐसा निर्देशक मिलता है जिसका विज़न बहुत स्पष्ट होता है या कई बार कम स्पष्ट होता है। आप यही उम्मीद करते हैं कि उनका विज़न मज़बूत हो। और जहाँ उनका विज़न बहुत गहरा होता है, वहाँ आपको उसे पूरी गहराई से समझने की ज़रूरत होती है।
The first thing you do as a producer is you try to understand the director's vision in as deeply a way as you can. Sometimes, you end up with a director that has more vision or sometime they have less vision. You hope that they have more. In the case where they have more, you need to understand it in the deepest way you can.
The first thing you do as a producer is you try to understand the director's vision in as deeply a way as you can. Sometimes, you end up with a director that has more vision or sometime they have less vision. You hope that they have more. In the case where they have more, you need to understand it in the deepest way you can.
आप ऐसे लोगों को एक साथ लाना चाहते हैं जो मिलकर अच्छा काम कर सकें, और हर फिल्म का अपना एक अलग मिज़ाज होता है—कि लोग कैसे काम कर रहे हैं या सेट पर माहौल कैसा है—और हम ऐसे लोगों को चाहते हैं जो उस माहौल में अच्छी तरह ढल सकें। यह इस पूरी प्रक्रिया के सबसे अहम हिस्सों में से एक है।
You want to put people together who will work well, and each movie kind of has its own personality in terms of how people are working or the temperature on set, and we want people who will fit in with that mix. It's one of the really important parts of it.
You want to put people together who will work well, and each movie kind of has its own personality in terms of how people are working or the temperature on set, and we want people who will fit in with that mix. It's one of the really important parts of it.
यहाँ तक कि जब आप कलाकारों का चुनाव (कास्टिंग) कर रहे होते हैं, तो यह हमेशा से सबसे अजीब और व्यक्तिगत प्राथमिकताओं वाला क्षेत्र रहा है। आप लोगों का एक ऐसा समूह पा सकते हैं जो यह तय करके कहे, "यह इंसान एक महान अभिनेता है और यह उससे कमतर है," लेकिन हमेशा कोई न कोई ऐसा दूसरा व्यक्ति मिल जाएगा जो उनकी पिछली फिल्मों के अनुभव के आधार पर उस अभिनेता को आपसे ज़्यादा पसंद करता हो।
Even when you're casting, casting is always one of the weirdest subjective areas. You can get a group of people who would decide and say, "This person is a great actor and this person is less than a great actor," but there will always be somebody else who likes that person better than you based on their experience in their other films.
Even when you're casting, casting is always one of the weirdest subjective areas. You can get a group of people who would decide and say, "This person is a great actor and this person is less than a great actor," but there will always be somebody else who likes that person better than you based on their experience in their other films.
मुझे लगता है कि निर्माण (प्रोड्यूसिंग) का मतलब सबसे पहले यह समझना है, और ऐसे लोगों को ढूँढना है जो चालक दल (क्रू) के हर सदस्य और काम करने वाले हर व्यक्ति के साथ मिलकर उसी नज़रिऐ को समझ सकें। और इसका एक हिस्सा इंसान का स्वभाव भी है, क्योंकि एक अच्छा निर्माता बनने में बहुत सारे मनोविज्ञान की ज़रूरत होती है
I think producing is first about understanding and finding people who understand it in the same way throughout the crew and everybody who's going to be working on it. And a piece of that is also personality, because there's a lot of psychology into being a good producer.
I think producing is first about understanding and finding people who understand it in the same way throughout the crew and everybody who's going to be working on it. And a piece of that is also personality, because there's a lot of psychology into being a good producer.
मेरे लिए जो चीज़ सबसे मुश्किल थी—और जिसे समझने में मुझे कई साल लग गए—वह यह अवधारणा थी कि हॉलीवुड में प्रतिभा के आधार पर सफलता नहीं मिलती। मैं अपने भाई-बहनों में बीच की संतान (मिडिल चाइल्ड) हूँ, और जैसा कि ज़्यादातर बीच के बच्चे आपको बताएँगे, यह चाहत कभी नहीं जाती कि काश दुनिया निष्पक्ष होती और सब कुछ समझती।
The hard thing for me, and it took me many years to understand, the concept of Hollywood not being a meritocracy - I am a middle child, and as most middle children will tell you, that never goes away, wishing the world was fair and understanding.
The hard thing for me, and it took me many years to understand, the concept of Hollywood not being a meritocracy - I am a middle child, and as most middle children will tell you, that never goes away, wishing the world was fair and understanding.
पागलपन तो यह था कि मैंने 200 पत्र भेजे थे और मुझे सिर्फ़ एक नौकरी का इंटरव्यू मिला था, और सच कहूँ तो मुझे वह नौकरी मिल भी गई, जो कि जोएल सिल्वर की कंपनी में डेवलपमेंट असिस्टेंट के रूप में थी। जब लोग मुझसे पूछते हैं कि "मुझे क्या करना चाहिए?", तो मैं हमेशा उनसे कहती हूँ, "देखो, मुझे दस जवाब नहीं मिले, मुझे पाँच इंटरव्यू नहीं मिले, लेकिन मुझे एक इंटरव्यू मिला, और मुझे नौकरी मिल गई," और मुझे बस उतने ही की ज़रूरत थी।
The crazy thing is, I sent out 200 letters and I got one job interview, and I actually got that job, which was working as a development assistant at Joel Silver's company. I always say that to people when they ask "What do I do?" and I'm like, "Look, I didn't get ten responses, and I didn't get five interviews, but I got one interview, and I got the job," and that was all I needed.
The crazy thing is, I sent out 200 letters and I got one job interview, and I actually got that job, which was working as a development assistant at Joel Silver's company. I always say that to people when they ask "What do I do?" and I'm like, "Look, I didn't get ten responses, and I didn't get five interviews, but I got one interview, and I got the job," and that was all I needed.
हॉलीवुड में एक बात यह है कि वहाँ कम से कम कुछ ऐसे लोग ज़रूर हैं जिन्हें हम बंद दरवाज़ों के पीछे और छोटे दायरे में ऐसा मानते हैं कि उनमें पी.टी. बर्नम (मशहूर शोमैन) जैसी जादुई खूबी होती है। जिसका मतलब यह है कि हो सकता है वे सबसे प्रतिभाशाली न हों, हो सकता है वे सबसे समझदार न हों, लेकिन उनकी फिल्में चली हैं या उन्होंने पुरस्कार जीते हैं, इसलिए वे आगे बढ़ जाते हैं।
There's a thing about Hollywood where there are at least a couple of guys that behind closed doors and in small circles we think of as having a magical P.T. Barnum quality. Which is to say, they may not be the most talented, and they may not be the smartest, but their movies made money or won awards, so they move ahead.
There's a thing about Hollywood where there are at least a couple of guys that behind closed doors and in small circles we think of as having a magical P.T. Barnum quality. Which is to say, they may not be the most talented, and they may not be the smartest, but their movies made money or won awards, so they move ahead.
किसी ने मुझसे पूछा, "एक औरत के तौर पर आपके लिए आख़िरी बार कब चीज़ें ज़्यादा मुश्किल थीं?" और मैंने कहा, "अभी समय क्या हुआ है? क्या आपका मतलब आज से है?" मुझे यह कहते हुए बुरा लगता है, क्योंकि यह बहुत निराशाजनक लगता है, लेकिन यह हकीकत है कि ऐसा हर रूप में, छोटे-बड़े तरीकों से लगातार होता रहता है। पर इसका यह मतलब नहीं कि यह रोज़ मेरे लिए कोई नया दर्द पैदा करता है, यह तो बस एक ऐसा दर्द है जिसे मैंने बहुत पहले स्वीकार कर लिया है। यह निश्चित रूप से ज़्यादा कठिन है।
Somebody asked me, "When was the last time it was harder for you as a woman"? And I was like, "What time is it? Do you mean today?" I hate to say that, because it sounds so depressing, but it absolutely happens in many many ways all the time, large and small ways. But it's not like it creates new pain for me on a daily basis, it's just a pain that I accepted long ago. It's definitely harder.
Somebody asked me, "When was the last time it was harder for you as a woman"? And I was like, "What time is it? Do you mean today?" I hate to say that, because it sounds so depressing, but it absolutely happens in many many ways all the time, large and small ways. But it's not like it creates new pain for me on a daily basis, it's just a pain that I accepted long ago. It's definitely harder.
मुझे लगता है 'मेमेंटो' फिल्म बनाना इसलिए कठिन था क्योंकि लोगों को वह समझ ही नहीं आ रही थी, वे बस उसे पकड़ नहीं पा रहे थे। ऐसा तब नहीं था जब हमने स्क्रिप्ट पढ़ी थी और हमें वह पसंद आई थी। अब यह एक तरह की मशहूर कहानी बन चुकी है कि कैसे हमने फिल्म पूरी करके वितरकों (डिस्ट्रीब्यूटर्स) को दिखाई और किसी ने उसे नहीं खरीदा। इसलिए बात सिर्फ यह नहीं थी कि उन्हें स्क्रिप्ट समझ नहीं आई, बल्कि फिल्म पूरी होने के बाद भी वे उसे समझ नहीं पाए थे। लेकिन मुझे लगता है कि वह खासकर एक मुश्किल दौर था। मुझे नहीं लगता कि वह इसलिए कठिन था क्योंकि हम महिलाएँ थीं, लेकिन मैं यह ज़रूर मानती हूँ कि पुरुषों के वर्चस्व वाली इस इंडस्ट्री में काम करने की अपनी कुछ खास चुनौतियाँ होती हैं।
I think Memento movie was hard because people didn't get it, they just didn't understand it. Not from the stage when we read the script and liked it. It's sort of a famous story now how we finished the movie and showed it to distributors and nobody wanted it. So it wasn't just they didn't get the script, they really didn't even understand the movie when it was done. But I think that was a particularly hard one. I don't think it was harder because we were girls, but I do think obviously there are particular challenges to working in a male-dominated industry.
I think Memento movie was hard because people didn't get it, they just didn't understand it. Not from the stage when we read the script and liked it. It's sort of a famous story now how we finished the movie and showed it to distributors and nobody wanted it. So it wasn't just they didn't get the script, they really didn't even understand the movie when it was done. But I think that was a particularly hard one. I don't think it was harder because we were girls, but I do think obviously there are particular challenges to working in a male-dominated industry.
मुझे याद है किसी ने मुझसे कहा था, "तुम 'बॉयलर रूम' जैसी फिल्म के साथ क्या कर रही हो? उसमें सारे पुरुष हैं और तुम एक महिला हो। तुम्हें रोमांटिक कॉमेडीज़ बनानी चाहिए," या कुछ ऐसा ही। मेरे लिए 'बॉयलर रूम' एक नैतिक शिक्षा देने वाली कहानी थी। मुझे वह इंटरव्यू याद है जिसमें उन्होंने मुझसे कहा था, "हाँ, लेकिन सारे किरदार तो पुरुष हैं," और मैंने जवाब दिया था, "लेकिन मैं एक लड़की हूँ, मुझे पुरुष पसंद हैं!" सिर्फ़ इसलिए कि किसी फिल्म में ज़्यादातर किरदार पुरुष हैं, इसका मतलब यह नहीं कि मेरे लिए उसमें कुछ भी दिलचस्प नहीं है। सिर्फ़ इसलिए कि मैं एक लड़की हूँ, इसका मतलब यह नहीं कि मैं बार-बार सिर्फ़ 'मस्ट लव डॉग्स' जैसी फिल्में ही बनाना चाहती हूँ।
I remember somebody had said to me "What're you doing with a movie like Boiler Room? It's all men and you're a woman. You should be making romantic comedies," or something like that. Boiler Room, for me, was a morality tale. I remember this interview where they said to me "Yeah, but all the characters are men," and I was like, "But I'm a girl, I like men!" It's not like there's nothing interesting to me just because a lot of characters in that movie happen to be male. Just because I'm a girl doesn't mean I only wanna make Must Love Dogs over and over again.
I remember somebody had said to me "What're you doing with a movie like Boiler Room? It's all men and you're a woman. You should be making romantic comedies," or something like that. Boiler Room, for me, was a morality tale. I remember this interview where they said to me "Yeah, but all the characters are men," and I was like, "But I'm a girl, I like men!" It's not like there's nothing interesting to me just because a lot of characters in that movie happen to be male. Just because I'm a girl doesn't mean I only wanna make Must Love Dogs over and over again.
किसी ने मुझे यह बात बताई कि मेरी बनाई फिल्मों की सूची (रिज़्यूमे) में कोई हॉरर फिल्म नहीं है, जो कि सच है, लेकिन मैं खुद भी ऐसी फिल्में देखना ज़्यादा पसंद नहीं करती हूँ। हालाँकि जब मैंने इस बारे में सोचा, तो मैंने मन में सोचा, "अगर मैंने कोई हॉरर फिल्म बनाई होती, तो शायद आज मेरे पास समुद्र किनारे एक बहुत ही सुंदर घर होता।" वे फिल्में बहुत लोकप्रिय होती हैं। बस मुझे लगता है कि यह मेरी पसंद की चीज़ नहीं है।
Somebody pointed out to me that there's no horror film on my resume, which is true, but I also don't really go see those movies. Although when I was thinking about it, I was thinking "I would probably have a really nice beach house if I made a horror movie." They seem to be very popular. I just don't think it's my thing.
Somebody pointed out to me that there's no horror film on my resume, which is true, but I also don't really go see those movies. Although when I was thinking about it, I was thinking "I would probably have a really nice beach house if I made a horror movie." They seem to be very popular. I just don't think it's my thing.
मुझे लगता है कि एक अच्छा निर्माता बनने के लिए कई अलग-अलग तरह के कौशलों की ज़रूरत होती है। आपको बहुत रचनात्मक होना पड़ता है, लेकिन साथ ही साथ आपको आर्थिक मामलों में भी बेहद समझदार होना पड़ता है। मैं मज़ाक में कहती हूँ कि इस नौकरी में इंसान कुछ हद तक चीयरलीडर और कुछ हद तक तानाशाह होता है। आपको दोनों भूमिकाएँ निभानी पड़ती हैं, क्योंकि एक तरफ़ आपको यह सुनिश्चित करना होता है कि लोग वही काम कर रहे हैं जो उन्हें करना चाहिए, वहीं दूसरी तरफ़ रचनात्मक रूप से आपको क्रू के हर सदस्य की हर काम में मदद करनी होती है। उनका उत्साह बढ़ाना होता है, उन्हें अपना सर्वश्रेष्ठ काम करने के लिए प्रेरित रखना होता है, और निर्देशक के विज़न को हमेशा सबसे आगे रखना होता है।
It takes a number of different skill sets, I think, to try and be a good producer. You have to be very creative, but you also have to be incredibly financially minded. I jokingly say the job is kind of part cheerleader and part dictator. It is both of those things, because you have to make sure that people are doing what they need to be doing, but creatively you really need to be helping each person in every job across the crew. Cheering them on, keeping them inspired into doing their best work, and you have the director's vision in the forefront.
It takes a number of different skill sets, I think, to try and be a good producer. You have to be very creative, but you also have to be incredibly financially minded. I jokingly say the job is kind of part cheerleader and part dictator. It is both of those things, because you have to make sure that people are doing what they need to be doing, but creatively you really need to be helping each person in every job across the crew. Cheering them on, keeping them inspired into doing their best work, and you have the director's vision in the forefront.
मैंने सिर्फ़ उस एक फिल्म पर काम किया था, लेकिन मुझे जल्दी ही यह एहसास हो गया कि सहायक निर्देशक (असिस्टेंट डायरेक्टर) बनने का रास्ता मुझे निर्माण (प्रोड्यूसिंग) तक नहीं पहुँचाएगा। प्रोडक्शन मैनेजमेंट और फिर लाइन प्रोड्यूसिंग के रास्ते आगे बढ़ने का तरीका बिल्कुल अलग होता है। इसलिए मूल रूप से मैं एक ऐसी स्थिति में आ गई थी जहाँ मैं कोई भी ऐसा काम करने को तैयार थी जो मुझे रचनात्मक लगे, जैसे कि मुझे यह काम मिला था—स्क्रिप्ट पढ़ना और उनकी समीक्षा (कवरेज) लिखना। इसलिए भले ही मैं एक ऐसा काम चुन रही थी जिसमें मुझे ठीक पहले वाली नौकरी से कम पैसे मिल रहे थे, लेकिन मुझे लगा कि मेरे लिए यही सही कदम है।
I only worked on that one movie, but then quickly realized that the path of being an assistant director was not gonna get me to producing. It's a different path coming up through production management and then line producing. So I basically was in the position where I was going to take any job that felt creative, like the one I got, which was reading scripts and writing coverage. So even though I was taking a job where I was making less money than the job immediately prior, it seemed like the right thing for me.
I only worked on that one movie, but then quickly realized that the path of being an assistant director was not gonna get me to producing. It's a different path coming up through production management and then line producing. So I basically was in the position where I was going to take any job that felt creative, like the one I got, which was reading scripts and writing coverage. So even though I was taking a job where I was making less money than the job immediately prior, it seemed like the right thing for me.
मेरे लिए समस्या यह है कि अक्सर मुझे ऐसा कंटेंट नहीं मिल पाता जो मुझसे और टीवी को लेकर मेरी समझ से मेल खाता हो। जब हम सबके पास डायरेक्टटीवी, नेटफ्लिक्स और अमेज़न नहीं थे, तो सचमुच 15 साल ऐसे बीते जिनमें मैंने कुछ नहीं देखा। अब, मुझे एक साथ कई एपिसोड देखने (बिंज-वॉचिंग) का मज़ा मिल रहा है, इसलिए अब मुझे लगता है कि मैं टीवी के मिज़ाज से कहीं ज़्यादा जुड़ गई हूँ, क्योंकि मैंने इतने सारे कमाल के टीवी शो लगातार देख डाले हैं कि अब मुझे इस क्षेत्र में काम करने को लेकर सचमुच थोड़ा ज़्यादा उत्साह महसूस हो रहा है।
The problem for me is that I just don't often come across material that speaks to me and my TV education. Before we all had DirectTV and Netflix and Amazon, there's literally 15 years where I saw nothing. Now, I get the pleasure of binge-watching, so now I feel like I'm much more in a TV state of mind, because I binge-watched so many incredible TV shows that now I'm actually a little bit more excited about working in the space.
The problem for me is that I just don't often come across material that speaks to me and my TV education. Before we all had DirectTV and Netflix and Amazon, there's literally 15 years where I saw nothing. Now, I get the pleasure of binge-watching, so now I feel like I'm much more in a TV state of mind, because I binge-watched so many incredible TV shows that now I'm actually a little bit more excited about working in the space.