मुझे सच में लगता है कि अभिनेताओं को यह अच्छी तरह पता होना चाहिए कि उनके किरदार कौन हैं; उन्हें अपनी लाइनों को अच्छे से पढ़ना चाहिए; उन्हें तैयार रहना चाहिए; लेकिन एक बार जब वे सेट पर आ जाते हैं, तो मेरे लिए किसी दृश्य को शूट करने का सबसे रोमांचक तरीका यह है कि उसे वहीं तलाशें, उसके साथ थोड़ी मशक्कत करें, जब तक कि आपको ऐसा कुछ न मिल जाए जिसे आप एक साथ पिरो सकें।
I really feel that actors should really know who they are as characters; they should really study their lines; they should be prepared; but once they come to set, for me the most exciting way to shoot a scene is to really find it, really kind of grind your way through it, until you feel like you have something that you can put together.
I really feel that actors should really know who they are as characters; they should really study their lines; they should be prepared; but once they come to set, for me the most exciting way to shoot a scene is to really find it, really kind of grind your way through it, until you feel like you have something that you can put together.
यह कोई बड़ा राज़ नहीं है कि हमारे समाज में जो कमियाँ हैं और जो गलतियाँ हैं, उनकी शुरुआत शिक्षा से होती है। इसकी शुरुआत इस बात से होती है कि लोगों की परवरिश कैसे होती है, और एक जागरूक नागरिक के तौर पर उनके दिमाग और सोच में क्या भरा जाता है।
It's not a big secret that what's lacking and what's wrong in our society starts with education. It starts with the way people are brought up, and what is put into their heads and put into their minds as engaged citizens.
It's not a big secret that what's lacking and what's wrong in our society starts with education. It starts with the way people are brought up, and what is put into their heads and put into their minds as engaged citizens.
पहला नज़रिया "बिगड़ा हुआ सेब" (अपवाद) का है। बिगड़े हुए सेब को नज़रअंदाज़ किया जा सकता है। यह कुछ ऐसा है जैसे, इस आदमी के साथ कुछ गड़बड़ हो गई थी। लेकिन दूसरा विकल्प पुलिस भ्रष्टाचार का है, इसलिए यह पूरे विभाग की समस्या है।
The first view is "bad apple." Bad apple is excusable. It's sort of like, something went bad with this man. But the second option is police corruption, so it's a problem with the department.
The first view is "bad apple." Bad apple is excusable. It's sort of like, something went bad with this man. But the second option is police corruption, so it's a problem with the department.
मुझे ज़रा भी अंदाज़ा नहीं है कि मेरा अगला प्रोजेक्ट क्या होगा और क्या कोई अगला प्रोजेक्ट होगा भी या नहीं। मुझे यह भी नहीं पता कि हम सब कल यहाँ होंगे या नहीं, लेकिन मैं काफी सकारात्मक हूँ।
I have no idea what the next project will be and if there's a next project. I don't even know if we're all going to be here tomorrow, but I'm pretty optimistic.
I have no idea what the next project will be and if there's a next project. I don't even know if we're all going to be here tomorrow, but I'm pretty optimistic.
मुझे लगता है कि हर कोई इस समझ के साथ इस प्रोजेक्ट से जुड़ा था कि वे एक ऐसे अनुभव से गुजरेंगे जो लीक से हटकर है, जो सिर्फ स्क्रिप्ट पढ़कर घर जाने जैसा नहीं है, बल्कि इन किरदारों को जीकर, एक-दूसरे के साथ उस पल में मौजूद रहकर, और किरदारों के बीच वर्तमान पल की तीव्रता को खुद से रचते हुए आगे बढ़ने का है।
I think everybody came into it with the understanding that they would go through an experience that is literally not by the book, that is not executing the script and then going home, but living and breathing these characters and being in the moment with each other, and improvising and creating a lot of present-tense intensity between characters.
I think everybody came into it with the understanding that they would go through an experience that is literally not by the book, that is not executing the script and then going home, but living and breathing these characters and being in the moment with each other, and improvising and creating a lot of present-tense intensity between characters.
मैं हर दूसरे दिन किसी नए अभिनेता की आँखों में झांक रहा होता हूँ, और सिर्फ यह देखकर बहुत कुछ सीख रहा हूँ कि लोग किन अलग-अलग तरीकों से काम करते हैं, और उनकी अभिनय शैली उनके लिए कैसे काम करती है।
I'm looking into a different actor's eyes every couple days, and I'm learning so much just to see the different processes people go through, and how their acting works for them.
I'm looking into a different actor's eyes every couple days, and I'm learning so much just to see the different processes people go through, and how their acting works for them.
यह कोई बड़ा राज़ नहीं है कि हमारे समाज में जो कमियाँ हैं और जो गलतियाँ हैं, उनकी शुरुआत शिक्षा से होती है।
It's not a big secret that what's lacking and what's wrong in our society starts with education.
It's not a big secret that what's lacking and what's wrong in our society starts with education.
लेकिन सच्चाई यह है कि पुलिस एक निश्चित कार्य करती है, एक निश्चित यथास्थिति को बनाए रखने के लिए, और फिल्म इन्हीं सब चीज़ों के बारे में है, क्योंकि यह मूल रूप से आपको पुलिस को देखने के तीन विकल्प देती है, जैसा कि डेव ब्राउन के किरदार से दर्शाया गया है।
But the reality is that the police serve a certain function, to maintain a certain status quo, and that's one of the things that the movie is about, because it basically gives you three options for looking at the police, as symbolized by Dave Brown.
But the reality is that the police serve a certain function, to maintain a certain status quo, and that's one of the things that the movie is about, because it basically gives you three options for looking at the police, as symbolized by Dave Brown.
मुझे लगता है कि इस फिल्म को बनाने और इसे समझने के दौरान—क्योंकि यह एक सीखने की प्रक्रिया थी—सबसे ज़्यादा भावुक कर देने वाला हिस्सा परिवार के साथ वाले सभी दृश्य हैं।
I think the most emotional part in making the movie and discovering the movie - because it was a process of discovering - is all the scenes with the family.
I think the most emotional part in making the movie and discovering the movie - because it was a process of discovering - is all the scenes with the family.
वे सभी दृश्य इस हकीकत से जुड़े हैं कि, दिन के अंत में, हम सभी—उम्मीद है कि हम में से कुछ लोग—किसी न किसी मकसद, आदर्श और जीवन जीने के खास तरीकों से जुड़े होते हैं, लेकिन आखिर हम इंसान हैं, और हम तमाम गलतियाँ करते हैं, और किसी न किसी व्यवस्था में फँसे रहते हैं—चाहे वह कुछ भी हो—लेकिन आखिरकार, इसकी कीमत आपके अपनों को चुकानी पड़ती है।
All the scenes that have to do with the fact that, at the end of the day, we're all engaged - hopefully some of us - in certain causes and ideals and certain ways of living, but we're human, and we're making all these mistakes, and we're caught in particular systems - whatever it is - but ultimately, there's a price paid by the people that are closest to you.
All the scenes that have to do with the fact that, at the end of the day, we're all engaged - hopefully some of us - in certain causes and ideals and certain ways of living, but we're human, and we're making all these mistakes, and we're caught in particular systems - whatever it is - but ultimately, there's a price paid by the people that are closest to you.
जीवन में जो कुछ भी हमें प्रेरित करता है, उसके चक्कर में हम जो नुकसान पहुँचाते उसका सीधा असर पड़ता है, और सबसे ज़्यादा हमारे बच्चों पर।
The damage that we do in the service of whatever motivates us in life has a direct effect, mostly on our kids.
The damage that we do in the service of whatever motivates us in life has a direct effect, mostly on our kids.
यह व्यवहार जिस तरह से हो रहा है—अल्पसंख्यकों के साथ जिस तरह का बर्ताव किया जाता है, जिस तरह से जेल प्रणाली काम करती है, यहाँ तक कि पुलिस के साथ जैसा बर्ताव किया जाता है, उन्हें जैसी तनख्वाह मिलती है, जैसी ट्रेनिंग मिलती है, और पूरी शिक्षा प्रणाली—इन सब बातों में यह साफ झलकता है।
What is reflected in the way this behavior is happening - in the way that minorities are treated, and the way that the incarceration system works, and the way that even the police are treated, and the way they're paid, and the way they're trained, and the whole educational system.
What is reflected in the way this behavior is happening - in the way that minorities are treated, and the way that the incarceration system works, and the way that even the police are treated, and the way they're paid, and the way they're trained, and the whole educational system.
एक अभिनेता होना मुश्किल है और किसी वास्तविक व्यक्ति का किरदार निभाना मुश्किल है, और दो लोगों को मिलाकर एक इंसान का किरदार निभाना भी मुश्किल है।
It's tough to be an actor and it's tough to portray a real person, and it's tough to play two people adding up to one person.
It's tough to be an actor and it's tough to portray a real person, and it's tough to play two people adding up to one person.
मुझे लगता है कि यह एक बेहद भारी-भरकम सच्चाई है जो असल में इस बात की नींव है कि हम इस समस्या से कैसे निपटेंगे। फिल्म को देखकर लोग कहेंगे, "ओह हाँ, आप पुलिस की आलोचना कर रहे हैं।" मैं कहता हूँ, "नहीं।"
I think that's an incredibly overwhelming reality that is really at the basis of how we're going to deal with this. Looking at the film, people will say, "Oh yeah, you're criticizing the police." I say, "No."
I think that's an incredibly overwhelming reality that is really at the basis of how we're going to deal with this. Looking at the film, people will say, "Oh yeah, you're criticizing the police." I say, "No."
इस फिल्म की असली प्रेरणा यही है। यह एक ऐसे आदमी की कहानी है जो उस पारंपरिक पुरुष प्रधान समाज की हर खूबी और आदत को दर्शाता है, जहाँ वह सैन्य ताकत का मालिक है, घर में राजा है और गलियों में भी उसका ही राज चलता है। उसे अपनी मर्जी से जीने की पूरी आज़ादी है।
That's really the big inspiration of this movie. It's really looking at a man who's really showing all the traits and all the characteristics of the classic patriarchal country, where he's of military power, he's the king of the hill at home, as well as in the streets. He has the liberty to live where he wants.
That's really the big inspiration of this movie. It's really looking at a man who's really showing all the traits and all the characteristics of the classic patriarchal country, where he's of military power, he's the king of the hill at home, as well as in the streets. He has the liberty to live where he wants.
तो आपकी नजर में एकमात्र समस्या यह है कि विभाग के कामकाज में फेरबदल किया जाए, चीजों को बदला जाए, उन पर नियंत्रण रखा जाए, शायद उन्हें संघीय देखरेख में लाया जाए, और अगर आप विभाग को सुधार लेते हैं, तो सारी समस्याएं ठीक हो जाएंगी—चाहे वह पुलिस का भ्रष्टाचार हो, क्रूरता हो, सबूतों के साथ छेड़छाड़ हो या फिर ऐसी ही अन्य बातें।
So the only problem that you have is actually switch things in the department, changing things, controlling things, putting it maybe under federal supervision, and if you fix the department, you'll fix the problems - with police corruption, with brutality, with evidence tampering, all those things.
So the only problem that you have is actually switch things in the department, changing things, controlling things, putting it maybe under federal supervision, and if you fix the department, you'll fix the problems - with police corruption, with brutality, with evidence tampering, all those things.
मुझे मिलकर लिखने (कोलैब्रेशन) की प्रक्रिया बहुत पसंद है, इसलिए कुछ चीजें तो ऐसी होती हैं जो पहले से ही हो सकती हैं और कुछ ऐसी होती हैं जिनकी शुरुआत मैं खुद करता हूँ और जिन्हें शायद अकेले ही लिखूँ।
I enjoy the process of writing collaboration so there's some stuff that already that may happen and then some stuff that I'm initiating that I may write on my own.
I enjoy the process of writing collaboration so there's some stuff that already that may happen and then some stuff that I'm initiating that I may write on my own.
भ्रष्टाचार को रोकने का कोई उपाय नहीं है क्योंकि यह किसी बाहरी इलाके में सेना को तैनात करने और उस पर कब्जा जमाने जैसा ही है—इसमें बहुत कुछ गलत होने की गुंजाइश रहती है। इंसानी फितरत ऐसी है कि वो इसमें बाधा बन ही जाती है। इसलिए आपको किसी दूसरी दिशा में सोचना शुरू करना होगा, और वह दूसरी दिशा यह है कि आखिर समाज में क्या खराबी है?
There's no solutions to prevent corruption because it's the same thing as putting soldiers in an occupation in a foreign territory - there's too much that's gonna go wrong. There's too much human behavior that's going to get in the way. So you're gonna have to start thinking about it in a different direction, and the different direction is: what is wrong with society?
There's no solutions to prevent corruption because it's the same thing as putting soldiers in an occupation in a foreign territory - there's too much that's gonna go wrong. There's too much human behavior that's going to get in the way. So you're gonna have to start thinking about it in a different direction, and the different direction is: what is wrong with society?
अगर आप इस नजरिए से देखेंगे, तो आप उन बुनियादी चीजों के बारे में सोचने लगेंगे, जो जेलों के बजाय रोजगार और कैद के बजाय शिक्षा की बात करती हैं।
If you look at it that way, then you start thinking about the basic things, which are jobs not jails, and education not incarceration.
If you look at it that way, then you start thinking about the basic things, which are jobs not jails, and education not incarceration.
एक और विकल्प, जो मुझे लगता है कि ज्यादा समझदारी भरा है, यह सच्चाई है कि पुलिस कुछ खास इलाकों और शहरों के कुछ खास हिस्सों पर कब्जे का प्रतीक होती है, जिन्हें मूल रूप से कमजोर वर्ग को दबाकर रखने और यथास्थिति (स्टेटस को) बनाए रखने के लिए डिजाइन किया जाता है, लेकिन वे नजरों से ओझल रहते हैं। ऐसा इसलिए किया जाता है ताकि दूसरी तरफ के लोग—यानी सत्ता में बैठे लोग, अमीर लोग, ऐशो-आराम की जिंदगी जीने वाले लोग, "सुरक्षित" इलाकों में रहने वाले लोग—यह पक्का कर सकें कि वे अपने बिस्तरों पर चैन की नींद सो सकें, भले ही दूसरों के साथ कुछ भी बुरा हो रहा हो और उससे उनका कोई लेना-देना न हो।
Another option, which I think is the thing that makes more sense, is this fact that the police are a reflection of the occupation of certain neighborhoods and certain parts of cities that are designed, basically, to keep the bottom down and basically maintain the status quo, but out of sight, so that the other side - the people in power, the people with money, the people with comfort, the people that are living in the "safer" areas - are sure that they can sleep safely in their bed while bad thing are happening to people and it's not their problem.
Another option, which I think is the thing that makes more sense, is this fact that the police are a reflection of the occupation of certain neighborhoods and certain parts of cities that are designed, basically, to keep the bottom down and basically maintain the status quo, but out of sight, so that the other side - the people in power, the people with money, the people with comfort, the people that are living in the "safer" areas - are sure that they can sleep safely in their bed while bad thing are happening to people and it's not their problem.
और ऑक्यूपाइ मूवमेंट के साथ, यह कितनी विडंबना की बात है कि पुलिस उन लोगों के नुमाइंदे और उन्हें लागू करने वाले बनकर आती है, जबकि ऑक्यूपाइ मूवमेंट के लोग वास्तव में उन्हीं की तरफ हैं—उनके बर्ताव के लिहाज से नहीं, बल्कि उनकी आर्थिक स्थिति के लिहाज से, समाज में पुलिस की क्या हैसियत है और उन्हें कितनी तनख्वाह मिलती है, इसके लिहाज से। अगर आप इसे पूरी तरह से पैसों और अर्थव्यवस्था के नजरिए से देखें, तो पुलिस को भी बाहर आकर ऑक्यूपाइ मूवमेंट के साथ मार्च करना चाहिए।
And with the Occupy Movement, it's really ironic how the police come as representatives and enforcers of the powers that be, even though the people in the Occupy Movement are really on their side - not in terms of their behavior, but in terms of their economic status, in terms of who the police are in society and how much they're paid, and if you boil it down to the economics of it, the police should be out there marching with the Occupy Movement.
And with the Occupy Movement, it's really ironic how the police come as representatives and enforcers of the powers that be, even though the people in the Occupy Movement are really on their side - not in terms of their behavior, but in terms of their economic status, in terms of who the police are in society and how much they're paid, and if you boil it down to the economics of it, the police should be out there marching with the Occupy Movement.
मुझे लगता है कि आप कुछ पुलिस अधिकारियों के बर्ताव के लिए उन्हें दोषी ठहरा सकते हैं, आप कुछ विभागों के बर्ताव, उनकी ताकत और ऐसी ही अन्य चीजों के लिए उन्हें कसूरवार मान सकते हैं, लेकिन आखिरकार, मैं यही कहूँगा कि बात हम सबकी और पूरे समाज की है। और मैं तो यह कहूँगा—भले ही यह बात थोड़ी विवादित लगे—कि एक पल के लिए पुलिस को किनारे रख दीजिए। असल में यह उनके बारे में है ही नहीं। यह तो उस खेल के बारे में है जिसे यथास्थिति को बनाए रखने और उन लोगों को फायदा पहुँचाने के लिए गढ़ा गया है जो इस पूरे तंत्र के मालिक हैं।
I think you can blame certain police officers for certain behavior, you can blame certain departments for certain behavior, and power and so forth, but, ultimately, I'd say it's about us, and it's about society, and I say - even if its sounds a little controversial - put the police aside for a second. It's really not about them. It's about the game that's been created to keep the status quo going and to let the people who own it all gain from the game.
I think you can blame certain police officers for certain behavior, you can blame certain departments for certain behavior, and power and so forth, but, ultimately, I'd say it's about us, and it's about society, and I say - even if its sounds a little controversial - put the police aside for a second. It's really not about them. It's about the game that's been created to keep the status quo going and to let the people who own it all gain from the game.
मुझे लगता है कि लगभग हर सीन एक खोज की तरह था—यह कभी तय नहीं था कि स्क्रिप्ट के पन्ने पर जो लिखा है, बस वही होगा। इसलिए मैं जानता हूँ कि मैं बहुत भाग्यशाली था—हम सब थे—कि हमें इस दर्जे के कलाकारों के साथ काम करने का मौका मिला। ये बेहद अनुभवी और समझदार अभिनेता हैं, जो उतने ही संवेदनशील भी हैं और—जैसा कि आपने कहा—दुनिया भर के मुद्दों से जुड़े हुए भी हैं।
I think that almost every scene was an exploration - it was never going to be just what’s on the page. So I know I was very lucky - we all were - to work with a cast of this caliber. These are extremely experienced and intelligent actors, who are also deeply emotional and - as you say - are also engaged in the world.
I think that almost every scene was an exploration - it was never going to be just what’s on the page. So I know I was very lucky - we all were - to work with a cast of this caliber. These are extremely experienced and intelligent actors, who are also deeply emotional and - as you say - are also engaged in the world.
इन लोगों के साथ हर पल जीना एक बेहद गहरा अनुभव था, और जब हम कोई फिल्म शूट करते हैं, तो वह वास्तव में बहुत कम समय की प्रक्रिया होती है, खासकर इस तरह की स्वतंत्र (इंडिपेंडेंट) फिल्म। इसकी शूटिंग सिर्फ पैंतीस दिनों तक चली थी।
Being in the moment with these guys was just a profound experience every day, and when we shoot a movie it's actually a very short process, especially an independent movie like this. It was only thirty five days of shooting.
Being in the moment with these guys was just a profound experience every day, and when we shoot a movie it's actually a very short process, especially an independent movie like this. It was only thirty five days of shooting.
कहने का मतलब है कि आप हमेशा यह उम्मीद करते हैं कि हर स्तर पर, हर परत पर आपका एक किरदार हो। हमारे लिए यह बातचीत काफी हद तक ताकत, कामुकता और क्रूरता के बारे में थी। और सच कहें तो उस दुनिया, उस दायरे में मौजूद तमाम मुद्दे आखिर में एक ही शब्द पर आकर टिक जाते हैं, और वह शब्द है "मर्दानी ताक़त" या "पुरुषत्व"।
I mean, you always hope to have a part on every level, on every layer. For us it was very much a conversation about power and sexuality and brutality. And really all the issues that are in that world, in that space, come down to one word, which is "masculinity.
I mean, you always hope to have a part on every level, on every layer. For us it was very much a conversation about power and sexuality and brutality. And really all the issues that are in that world, in that space, come down to one word, which is "masculinity.